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Oshyan's avatar

Does this all really just come down in your mind to a "good founder" exercising their will and moral fiber and grit to execute a truly humanistic app/service to make the world better? I'm not saying it's not possible, but the prevailing system and incentives strongly, strongly favor inhumane values, so you need to work *against* that system to express well-being-oriented values.

Working against capitalism isn't what most tech founders have in mind and isn't going to lead to the kind of success most want/envision. We do have a few examples of people doing this and they're inspiring; I would love to see more founders following in the footsteps of Jimmy Wales, Tim Berners-Lee, Linus Torvalds, Sal Khan, and the like, or even Brewster Kahle (who founded and exited several companies and basically amassed wealth then used that position to found the Internet Archive), but it's a rarified path. Many of these people do not have large salaries, they're not huge in the public eye (Wales is known but not anywhere near as famous as Bezos, Altman, etc.), and perhaps most critically, most of what they've founded are *nonprofits*. While that business model obviously exists within capitalism, it operates in a way that is essentially counter to the core values and tenets of capitalism - it is an anomaly. Do you believe that a tech founder truly can create a for-profit company that deeply values and expresses human wellbeing and also becomes a significant financial success? If so what are some examples?

I'm all for the core message here, but once again it feels like it ignores or at least elides the forces that largely orient our founders and the companies they create toward configurations that are harmful to humanity. Individual agency and choice has a role, but is dramatically overemphasized in the telling here, in my view.

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Jorge Medina's avatar

There are founders out there trying to figure out how to make something that's not just about profit, but they aren't backed by funding. And if they have the privilege to try and take a go at it, the only realistic way they have to get their products out there is by playing into the games of algorithms that thrive on click-bait, fear-mongering, and polarizing takes. Most who are motivated to build something that actually matters lose all motivation when they face the reality of what they have to do to get noticed.

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